The Bullpen

It is currently Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:52 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 4 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Nick Punto lover
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:08 pm 
Offline
User avatar
 WWW  Profile

Joined: Wed May 23, 2007 4:57 pm
Posts: 145
We all know how I feel about our little Nicky Punto after last years debacle. I had an interesting text conversation during the Twins shitty loss against Detroit tonight with Nick Punto's number one fan and I decided to share. We'll just call him PUNTO LOVER.

Quote:
PUNTO LOVER: So you guys hate on punto so nuch what about lambs 120 average and everetts 4th error?!

ME: Puntos .125 average was impressive in spring training too

PUNTO LOVER: So was his .980 defense

ME: Is this last years argument all over again...face it punto is not an everyday player

PUNTO LOVER: And lamb is? or everett?? you cant just single out one player and have a hypocritical argument

ME: Did we argue about those two last year?? Don't think so. Please check back with a descent sample size.

PUNTO LOVER: I dunno man 4 errors in 13 games pretty descent. whats that equal i dunno like 50 in a year? prettysweet

ME: If you want to talk about career number defensively for everett, he's rated the best defensive shortstop in baseball.

PUNTO LOVER: All im saying is that youre ok with his defense and lambs 'defense' and ok with their averages but punto sucks with a comparable average and better d

ME: Since when was I arguing about lamb and everett, please explain

PUNTO LOVER: You werent you were hatin on punto so how are you alright with these jokers im just wondering

ME: I'm not I think they need to improve but punto had a whole year, this is the 13th game. I seem to remember u saying that we needed to give punto a chance in July last year which I disagreed with

_________________
Outdoor baseball 2010


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Nick Punto lover
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:12 pm 
Offline
User avatar
 WWW  Profile

Joined: Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:49 pm
Posts: 128
Location: Location: Location
All I hear is wha wah waaaaa.

_________________
"No I'm not."


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Nick Punto lover
PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:07 pm 
Offline
User avatar
 WWW  Profile

Joined: Wed May 23, 2007 4:57 pm
Posts: 145
I'll I can say is that at least Everett can bunt! Gardenhire called a suicide squeeze this year while Everett was up and he GOT THE BUNT DOWN something that Punto demonstrated last year that he could not do. We also ended up winning that game by one run thanks to this perfectly executed suicide squeeze play, which might I add is one of the sweetest plays to watch in baseball when executed properly.

I'm not going to argue for Everett having 3 errors in 9 games but give him a chance, it's the 13th game of the season? If you want career numbers defensively for Everett, he's rated as one of the best shortstops in the game?
Quote:
Numbers often disagree with the sterling defensive reputations that guys like Punto and Castro have been tagged with, but in Everett's case his reputation is strong and his numbers are even stronger. In fact, Everett's numbers--the important ones, not misleading/near-useless stats like fielding percentage and Range Factor--show him as either the best or second-best defensive shortstop in all of baseball since he became an everyday player in 2003.

This only further demonstrates that it's fricken 13 games into the season for Everett, the guy's career numbers are sick defensively. As for his bat, this will need to improve or he'll be riding the pine with the likes of a UTILITY PLAYER like Punto. Gardenhire has already been using Tolbert in 6 of the 13 games this year because of Everett's lack of production offensively and to some respect defensively though I'd caution on Gardenhire determined that Everett is a horrible defensive player.

Lamb has never proven to be a solid defensive 3rd baseman but after a season that Punto had, they had to find a replacement obviously because our run production last year was terrible. Lamb was brought more for his offense than defense and Gardenhire uses Punto in later innings (7/8th inning on) to replace Lamb in the field in games that we are leading. This is smart due the "LNP's" UNBELIEVABLE defense. Now if he can't lay down a bunt or slides head first into first you can rest assure I won't keep quiet. BUNTING IS FUNDAMENTAL, to be a fundamentally sound player requires to do it on BOTH sides of the field, period.
Quote:
The Twins clearly targeted Lamb because of his bat. He's hit .281/.339/.427 in 2,676 career trips to the plate, including a .281/.342/.464 hitting line during four seasons in Houston that looks nearly identical to the aforementioned MLB average at third base (.275/.345/.445) over the past three seasons. Lamb's numbers away from Houston's hitter-friendly home ballpark have been somewhat underwhelming, but he's capable of being an average offensive third baseman. That's the good news.
The bad news is that Lamb's defense is another story. While the Twins are looking at Lamb as their everyday third baseman, several other teams were reportedly interested in signing him as either a first baseman or designated hitter. And with good reason, because Lamb's numbers at third base have been nearly as ugly as Adam Everett's numbers at shortstop are impressive. While Everett is among the MLB leaders in Zone Rating and Revised Zone Rating every year, the opposite is true for Lamb.

Analysis of these two players and team will be better judged 2-4 months into the season, bottom line 13 games is WAY TOO EARLY to jump on the "I HATE THESE JOKERS EVERETT AND LAMB" bandwagon. Unfortunately I have already given up on Punto being an everyday player and so far this season it looks like he's fit into his new role perfectly. But as stated above, it's the 13th game...the season doesn't end on 13 nor do I only give two new players 13 games to prove themselves.
-HS

_________________
Outdoor baseball 2010


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Nick Punto lover
PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:25 pm 
Offline
 Profile

Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:50 am
Posts: 48
I concur, wah wah waaaaaahhhhh!!!!


Top
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 4 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 6 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group  
Design By Poker Bandits